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Today I’m going to talk about two weaknesses I have and two excellent books which address them. One book was recommended by my friend Brian Sharp during an awesome presentation he did at the Game Developers Conference (video coming soon, Brian?). It’s called Difficult Conversations. The second is called the Time Paradox, which I got off my friend Derek’s reading list (Derek provides notes for every book, which gives you a good idea of whether you’ll like it or not).

Self Expression

Unless I’ve dated you in the past, you might be surprised to hear that I’m not very good at expressing myself. The irony, of course, is that blogs are about self expression, and the authors that make themselves most vulnerable often have the most success. But if you look at my past articles, I very rarely talk about my feelings. I’m transparent about who I am, what I do, what I’ve done, where I go, what I think, etc., but how I feel is notably absent.

This is mostly true in real life, as well. I joke around a lot and I’m sarcastic, often in excess, probably because it spares me the necessity of talking about how I feel about anything. In most situations this is fine, and in most situations I don’t really have any feelings that ought to be talked about.

In other situations, especially in relationships, it does become a problem. An ex once called one of my friends, crying, saying “Tynan has no emotions!”. When I go into a relationship and never express how I feel or show any vulnerability, I don’t get as close as I could. The girl either responds by also clamming up, or by getting frustrated when she opens up and I don’t. My lack of emotional output is incorrectly interpreted as a lack of interest.

Two events in my life contributed to this. Gambling is the first; being a professional gambler over a long period of time required me to disconnect somewhat from my emotions. Life is too stressful if you get excited every time you win and get upset every time you lose. By the end I could win tens of thousands in a day and it felt like a normal day. When I got busted at the end and lost more than that, I also went about my day like usual. Overall I consider this to be a positive thing, but few things are completely positive or negative. Emotions can be fun, and I don’t feel a lot of them. I’m too pragmatic, maybe.

Pickup also contributed. Before pickup I made the mistake of sharing WAY too much with every girl. Beyond the point of making myself vulnerable, I would tell the girl everything I was feeling, which made my emotional state her responsibility. Since then I’ve been on the other side of the fence and I understand what a burden it is. The antidote in pickup is to cleverly avoid any sort of rejection by never showing any emotion. This works well in the club, but once you’re trying to actually connect with someone it becomes an impediment.

I bought Difficult Conversations pretty much exclusively because Brian is an excellent communicator. He strikes a good balance between being light and serious, and I thought that maybe if I read the book I might be pulled over to the serious side a bit more.

But what Difficult Conversations boils down to (to me, at least) is how to express emotion in a reasonable way. It’s so well articulated that even being as resistant to emotional self-expression as I am, I found myself nodding in agreement as I read it. The authors give a lot of examples of conversations. The “before” conversations are realistic and to the untrained reader seem hard to negotiate. The “after” conversations are also realistic and do a good job of putting the techniques in context. Near the end the examples became a bit contrived and unrealistic, but that was only the last ten percent.

Another thing I liked about Difficult Conversations was how well it handled my objections. I’d be thinking, “Yeah, but you can’t just go around dropping your emotions on everyone in your path”, and two chapters later they’d talk about the importance of restraint and “negotiating with your feelings”.

One of the most valuable ideas I picked up from Difficult Conversations is that the conversation you think you’re having isn’t really the one you’re having. People tend to argue the facts and blame, but these aspects don’t create productive conversations. Instead, what people are actually thinking about (and trying to convert into facts and blame) are how each one contributed to the situation, how they feel about it, and how they think the situation reflects on them. The reason you talk about these things isn’t to make everyone feel good and happy, but because they’re the root causes of the difficult conversation, and only by addressing them can you work towards resolving the situation.

Relating to Others

I almost gave up reading Time Paradox halfway through. They have a quiz you can take to see how close to the ideal “time perspective” you are, which I took. I was dead on for all but one, which was the “future fatalistic” timeline. I expressed that I didn’t have any expectation of anything happening after I die, and apparently I should believe that God is going to take care of me.

So I almost stopped reading, thinking “these guys are idiots”. I still don’t agree that I should believe that something magical happens after I die, but I’m really glad I stuck with the book. It talks about how each individual views the past, present, and future and how these views shape our lives and decisions.

Time Paradox is full of scientific studies, and it’s made very clear that the authors have spent their lives dedicated to researching how we interact with time. The biggest thing I got out of it was an understanding of why other people make some of the decisions that they make. I can think of a number of situations where people made decisions that really baffled me: taking dumb risks, passing up huge opportunities, making weird career decisions, not making health a priority. As I read the book, though, I realized that when you see the world through different time perspectives, you have different priorities and thus make different decisions.

I’ve always found it difficult to put myself in other people’s shoes, but Time Paradox helped a lot. Even if I wouldn’t make the same decision that someone else would, I can better understand his motivations, priorities, and thought process. Fascinating and useful stuff.


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G
Apr 5th, 2010 @ 12:17 pm

Hi Tynan,
This is going to sound very harsh, but I hope you take it as constructive criticism.
Your inability to “express feelings” as you say or connect on a really deep level as I prefer to think of it, is in my opinion, very much the result of a lack of courage. And to be more specific, a lack of courage that originally stems from interactions with the opposite sex. Over time, pickup “roboticises” people who buy into its rather severely flawed paradigms (flawed from a human interaction perspective). Achieving some kind of (marginal) success in getting sex, the “PUA” then thinks he is now a “man” and knows how to “be” with women. Sadly, being able to engage in sexual intercourse is only a very tiny subset of human interaction with the opposite sex though and as a result the “pua” remains somewhat of an emotional cripple. Honesty and courage in interacting with the opposite sex are essential for a truly well-developed personality. I know men that have slept with hundreds of women and are still emotional cripples by my measure of things. Much rarer are men that can handle emotionally deep situations as well as they might handle the resolution of some mechanical problem like changing a wheel on a car. An inability to express your feelings adequately, including in extreme circumstances those of rage and mourning, as well as for the most part remain in a balanced state that can honestly be referred to as happiness, is a sign of immaturity. This is mainly why I consider PUAs to be (in the vast majority) a bunch of sad little geeks that haven’t grown a pair yet. And no matter how many “cool” trips or “cool” blogs or “cool” gadgets they come up with, that “robotic” inability to express deeply renders them “weaker” to my mind than some half-illiterate cave-man type who may not even know how to switch on a computer but whom has a true, honest, deep relationship with his emotions (and thus is subconscious too).
Courage is an essential tool to discover this depth of love and I often thing it is sadly lacking in PUAs. They try to “cover-up” for this lacuna, by using massive doses of hyperbole, exaggeration, “status” and “look at how cool my life is” indicators to try and hide the fact that in reality, where it counts, they lack balls and heart.

As I said, this sounds harsh, and it is also a difficult subject to explain to mostly audio-digital little “robots” like yourself that try to reduce human interactions and experiences to a neat little program list (in old BASIC style programming) because it naturally is almost impossible to mathematically show you the value of “subjective” issues such as “deep feelings”. I can only suggest that you read up on russian physicists and the way they use an intersection of logic and thought to actually make discoveries without having the formal mathematical ability of western physicists (who are sadly stuck in a broken paradigm of quantum mechanics and static relativity theory, neither of which takes into account vorticular physics).

Anyway, I hope you will at least ponder these words as doing so might help shake you out of your safety cocoon, which is after all, merely a product of your insecurity and fear. In order to lead a truly happy and exemplary (exemplary to yourself first and foremost) life, you really need to get out of this protective shell.

I hope you do.
G.

Apr 5th, 2010 @ 12:55 pm

I found this post a really interesting read. I think I am quite similar to you in this sense. I am frequently baffled by some of the decisions people make and I can’t help but judge them for it. Good on you for being comfortable writing about this. I think I read once that you said you also have a hard time not judging people. Does time paradox help with this problem?

Apr 5th, 2010 @ 1:38 pm

I just bought Difficult Conversations based on your description of it.

This has always been a huge problem for me and eventually always leads to the demise of any relationship I have.

“You’re always sarcastic”
“You’re never serious”

And then, when I try to be serious, its like the boy who cried “wolf!” and they either just outright don’t believe me, or I have to go to the most extraordinary lengths to get the least bit of belief from them.

It’s very frustrating.

One of my friends used to say this about me (and guys in general):
“Girls are made out of sugar, spice and everything nice. Boys are made out of metal.”

A song I have been listening to describes this pretty well, maybe its a subconscious thing:
“You’re so sensitive
I am, I am a machine.”

Anyways, thanks for sharing, I’ll check out the other book when I get some more free time.


DH
Apr 5th, 2010 @ 4:44 pm

Any kind of growth requires recognizing our fears and having the courage to both hold the fear and take action. Ty, acknowledging, in a most public way, your struggle to express emotions was an act of courage.

To G: Not only do you “sound” harsh, you are harsh to reduce someone to an “audio-digital little “robots” like yourself”. Ty said, “The antidote in pickup is to cleverly avoid any sort of rejection by never showing any emotion. This works well in the club, but once you’re trying to actually connect with someone it becomes an impediment.” Sounds to me like Ty wants to be emotionally connected and seeking ways to develop and express this aspect of himself.


Kyle
Apr 5th, 2010 @ 11:02 pm

I’m really impressed with Zimbardo’s work in psychology and I wanted the Time Paradox but I didn’t want to drop the money for it. I think I’ll try to get both now.

Apr 6th, 2010 @ 5:43 am

@ “G”…. That was the biggest load of crap I’ve ever read. While I agree that some “pick up artists” lack true social depth, there is absolutely no way you can apply such a harsh and overly specific criticism of pick-up to every single person who has practiced learning success with women. Nor do I think you’re qualified to attack Tynan like that. And that is what I believe it was…a thinly veiled attack disguised as “constructive criticism”. Nothing you said in that rant could possibly be perceived as constructive or in anyway positive.

Seriously, Tynan has acknowledged he has a problem and has the balls to put it out in the open like this, and this is what you give him.

Don’t take such harsh words to heart Ty.


Starbuck
Apr 6th, 2010 @ 11:47 am

Yeah ‘G’..

Don’t criticize Jason’s heroes like that.

‘G’ makes a good overall point. And you know the old sayings;

“If the shoe fits”

“Take what you need and leave the rest.”

Clearly if one cultivates qualities that appeal to superficial or even what most men would describe as ‘lesser’ women in an effort to obtain easy sex. Then they take a risk of blowing off a good one when she finally does come along.

Apr 7th, 2010 @ 2:30 pm

Awesome post and I like how you have stimulated some heated discussion over here, LOL.

I had the pleasure meeting you couple of weeks ago (I am still looking to move in as your neighbor soon on one of these Friday’s).

First, I think most of us guys can identify with what you described as far as what comes to our difficulty in often expressing our feelings. I know, it is often hard for me too.

But the irony really is this. It is really women who are much more afraid and scared to open up and share their vulnerable feelings. It really is not that scary for us guys to do it. We just don’t feel the need for it and as a dating and relationship coach neither do I think we really even should.

When a woman says: “You have no emotions” or “Why don’t you ever share your feelings” what it means is that you really have not done a good job listening and understanding her. In reality she is scared to share her feelings and you have not done a good job making her feel safe to open up to you. The truth is that it is much scarier for a woman to open up and share her vulnerable feelings than it is for us guy’s.

That’s why women often try to get men to become more sensitive or more vulnerable. It is really not because they even want us to be vulnerable or to open up. They just want to feel safe to share their feelings. Women, unfortunately and naively often think that if you became more vulnerable and sensitive it would then make it safer for her to then share her feelings also.

But unfortunately, this often does not solve the real problem. The key for us guys is to realize we really don’t have to become these sensitive guys who can articulate our feelings.

What we need to learn is to care for women in away that works. This means learning to listen to women with much more compassion and understanding. This is not always easy. But once you realize that you don’t really have to do or say anything and you can still provide what women need it can become very easy.

By asking questions and sincerely taking more interest in her world and by trying to understand how she is feeling, especially when she is stressed out you you will impress her much more than by learning to open up yourself.

So as an end note, I don’t think there is anything wrong with you at all and I look forward to checking out your electric skate board soon, LOL!


arebelspy
Apr 9th, 2010 @ 6:13 pm

i was reading on geekologie and i swear this is todd:
http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/didnt_i_see_you_circling_the_m.php

..no?


Tynan
Apr 10th, 2010 @ 10:17 am

Yep, that’s Todd. You can see more pics at http://tynan.imgur.com/the_rape_van


Calvin R
Apr 12th, 2010 @ 1:28 pm

Tynan, thanks for the thoughtfulness in your post and for the willingness to be as vulnerable as you can. Follow your instincts and you’ll get what you need.

As far as “G,” I find him difficult to understand. My suspicion is that he uses pomposity to cover up his hostility. It came out at the end though, when he could not resist name calling. I’m a communication major; I know that more and longer words don’t communicate; they hide poor thinking.

I have the feeling that your respondent who claims to be a relationship coach can talk about deep feelings but has yet to discover his own.


Cyd
Apr 16th, 2010 @ 5:45 pm

Hear hear to what G. said! Now, I don’t know Tynan and don’t know if these thoughts expressed are true of them, but I have dated a PUA, and as such….know for a FACT that everything stated applies to him. No balls, no heart, no courage. Just insecurity, narcissism, deep confusion and despair, and an ultimately meaningless existence. And no, it wasn’t Mystery. ;P


G
Apr 26th, 2010 @ 9:29 am

@ Starbuck: :) Good to know there are still some guys out there that have enough understanding of women and humans in general not to be fooled by the largely hyperbolic PUA “community”.

@Cyd: I don’t know you either, but I feel for you. So many women have told me similar stories. Don’t despair, there are still some evolved cavemen that have not turned into metrosexual PUAs out there.


Calvin R
May 31st, 2010 @ 8:47 am

I borrowed “The Time Paradox” from the library. Zimbardo has enough bravado to refer to the Stanford Prison Experiement more than once. I would not be asking people to study my famous failure decades later.

The book has some good and important points to make, especially about the dramatic differences in how people view time. I especially agree with his view of addiction as limiting one’s viewpoint to the present. He fails to notice the later stages of addiction, though, when hedonism changes to fatalism, still within the present. Also, they give very little information about the “present holistic” outlook, which is the only one they see as healthy in its own right, not needing to be balanced out by others. If I undestand this work correctly, the “present holistic” view of time is much of what I have acquired via 12-step recovery. All in all, the book is worth spending the time to read. At the very least, it raises one’s awareness of differing viewpoints, potentially leading to the empathy that you (Tynan) mentioned in your original posting.


Calvin R
Jun 21st, 2010 @ 12:33 pm

I have read “Difficult Conversations,” also from the library. This one’s impressive. It condenses a great deal of the best wisdom I have found into a clear and readable volume. The reminders about what we know and don’t know about a given conversation are particularly valuable to me. I also like that they apparently take their time in discussing the three levels of a given conversation and all the rest of it, but after all that information it’s a fairly short book. That takes real skill.

The only objection I could come up with is that the example they use to set up the book and to summarize their processes centers on a stressful contract work situation that I would have avoided in the first place or communicated about up front. All in all, that’s not much of an objection, given that it’s also a very common situation.

Keep reading and recommending, Tynan. You have good taste.

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