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		<title>By: Prophdng</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-194361</link>
		<dc:creator>Prophdng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 08:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never seen a neg described so well. I&#039;ve always understood the purpose, but I&#039;ve never been able to relate it to someone else without it sounding like a technique to lower someone&#039;s self esteem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never seen a neg described so well. I&#8217;ve always understood the purpose, but I&#8217;ve never been able to relate it to someone else without it sounding like a technique to lower someone&#8217;s self esteem.</p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-181538</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its really too bad that most people are sheep.  It hurts everyone, but no one so much as the sheep themselves, because they never get to live life to its fullest.  it makes me sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its really too bad that most people are sheep.  It hurts everyone, but no one so much as the sheep themselves, because they never get to live life to its fullest.  it makes me sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Bridget Carter</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-107089</link>
		<dc:creator>Bridget Carter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tynan! hey man hows it goin? this is the only way i know how to contact you...i haven&#039;t been working as much at the Daily Juice (I&#039;m sure you&#039;ve noticed). But i wanted to invite you and Todd to an art show that I&#039;ve been organzing and curating. It&#039;s this saturday (17th) from 3-9pm. I hope you get this in time. If you&#039;re interested email me at: brimargueritte8@yahoo.com...hope you&#039;re well and i hope it&#039;s ok that i&#039;ve contacted you this way! miss seeing you guys! peace and love -bridget</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tynan! hey man hows it goin? this is the only way i know how to contact you&#8230;i haven&#8217;t been working as much at the Daily Juice (I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve noticed). But i wanted to invite you and Todd to an art show that I&#8217;ve been organzing and curating. It&#8217;s this saturday (17th) from 3-9pm. I hope you get this in time. If you&#8217;re interested email me at: <a href="mailto:brimargueritte8@yahoo.com">brimargueritte8@yahoo.com</a>&#8230;hope you&#8217;re well and i hope it&#8217;s ok that i&#8217;ve contacted you this way! miss seeing you guys! peace and love -bridget</p>
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		<title>By: Casper</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-97948</link>
		<dc:creator>Casper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:39:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a huge misconception about this. I met Mystery and he is a great guy and a very DRIVEN guy. He is a little eccentric but he&#039;s also a genius. What he is doing is helping guys to increase their own value in a way that propels them to new heights in their lives and as a great side effect they get women. Not only that, but their CHOICE of women. There&#039;s nothing negative or manipulative about it. Women play their games all the time and nothing is publicized about it. This is a way for men to even the playing field a little bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a huge misconception about this. I met Mystery and he is a great guy and a very DRIVEN guy. He is a little eccentric but he&#8217;s also a genius. What he is doing is helping guys to increase their own value in a way that propels them to new heights in their lives and as a great side effect they get women. Not only that, but their CHOICE of women. There&#8217;s nothing negative or manipulative about it. Women play their games all the time and nothing is publicized about it. This is a way for men to even the playing field a little bit.</p>
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		<title>By: Solomon</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-95753</link>
		<dc:creator>Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting but it doesnt work for me. Extremely frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting but it doesnt work for me. Extremely frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: I've Read The Game</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-95003</link>
		<dc:creator>I've Read The Game</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It can go both ways. I&#039;ve read The Game and I&#039;ve read Mystery&#039;s Method (both versions long and short) and I tell ya it&#039;s up to the person to take what they will. 

Someone can either look at the elements of social engineering and manipulate an outcome or take the precepts of the game and better their lives.

I personally don&#039;t yearn for sex (read Extramask&#039;s de-virgining in the book) and that&#039;s how I&#039;ve felt. The person I do connect with is Juggler as he is genuinely looking for a connection with a person.

Not a quick lay but a person. I genuinely search for a connection with someone on a human to human basis. Sharing one life experience to another. 

The community gives the tools and processes to allow an outcome. Some people see lemons and some people will see lemonade short of a few steps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can go both ways. I&#8217;ve read The Game and I&#8217;ve read Mystery&#8217;s Method (both versions long and short) and I tell ya it&#8217;s up to the person to take what they will. </p>
<p>Someone can either look at the elements of social engineering and manipulate an outcome or take the precepts of the game and better their lives.</p>
<p>I personally don&#8217;t yearn for sex (read Extramask&#8217;s de-virgining in the book) and that&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve felt. The person I do connect with is Juggler as he is genuinely looking for a connection with a person.</p>
<p>Not a quick lay but a person. I genuinely search for a connection with someone on a human to human basis. Sharing one life experience to another. </p>
<p>The community gives the tools and processes to allow an outcome. Some people see lemons and some people will see lemonade short of a few steps.</p>
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		<title>By: No 7evens</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-94179</link>
		<dc:creator>No 7evens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To say that a &quot;pick-up&quot; in the singular comes about through more than manipulation or deception, or that it is about expressing yourself honestly, etc. is just incorrect. Nobody has ever ached to &quot;get a female&#039;s opinion,&quot; or ask if &quot;you see that fight outside.&quot; The pick-up may indeed be an art, but that does not make it the undeniable, most legitimate way to meet women that most here make it out to be. Many who post here argue that the Pick-up is about finding and building relationships, but those same people base their opinions on coming up with ways to meet women at bars. I don&#039;t have scientific proof, but I am willing to bet that for every life-long relationship started in a bar with published pick-up techniques, there are hundreds that don&#039;t make it to the next morning. 

While Ryan may have come off as a dick, I have yet to read a compelling argument for the pick-up as more than a means to a short tryst, and for that I hope I hope to come off as as much of a dick to warrant a reasonable response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To say that a &#8220;pick-up&#8221; in the singular comes about through more than manipulation or deception, or that it is about expressing yourself honestly, etc. is just incorrect. Nobody has ever ached to &#8220;get a female&#8217;s opinion,&#8221; or ask if &#8220;you see that fight outside.&#8221; The pick-up may indeed be an art, but that does not make it the undeniable, most legitimate way to meet women that most here make it out to be. Many who post here argue that the Pick-up is about finding and building relationships, but those same people base their opinions on coming up with ways to meet women at bars. I don&#8217;t have scientific proof, but I am willing to bet that for every life-long relationship started in a bar with published pick-up techniques, there are hundreds that don&#8217;t make it to the next morning. </p>
<p>While Ryan may have come off as a dick, I have yet to read a compelling argument for the pick-up as more than a means to a short tryst, and for that I hope I hope to come off as as much of a dick to warrant a reasonable response.</p>
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		<title>By: Animus</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-89773</link>
		<dc:creator>Animus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 11:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That which you resist persists.. that which you accept u gain power to use ;)</description>
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		<title>By: NaturalMen</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-89537</link>
		<dc:creator>NaturalMen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 05:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there&#039;s a good side and bad side to the game just like Neil pointed out.

Ryan missed some points.  It&#039;s not about manipulation and deceiving women but there are persuasion and influence tactics involved.  But with anything in life there is some form of persuasion.
The good is men becoming better with women and accepting new roles and attitudes and adopting new behaviors.  Otherwise you end up with depressed men with a bitterness towards women after their girlfriend dumps them and they find it hard to talk to another woman.
The bad I&#039;ve seen from the community is the snobby and judgemental attitudes I&#039;ve seen arise.  Guys telling guys not to date anyone but 8&#039;s through 10&#039;s.  Guys telling guys not to befriend fat girls because they lower your value.  Guys giving guys tips on stealing or sleeping women in committed relationships. And guys referring to the majority of guys outside of the community as AFC! This in no way is helping men become better.  It&#039;s only putting a black eye on the community.  We don&#039;t need this.  We need men to step up and be men, not boys pretending to be men.  As much as I defend the community I also wont turn a blind eye to some of the darkness within.  Good post though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there&#8217;s a good side and bad side to the game just like Neil pointed out.</p>
<p>Ryan missed some points.  It&#8217;s not about manipulation and deceiving women but there are persuasion and influence tactics involved.  But with anything in life there is some form of persuasion.<br />
The good is men becoming better with women and accepting new roles and attitudes and adopting new behaviors.  Otherwise you end up with depressed men with a bitterness towards women after their girlfriend dumps them and they find it hard to talk to another woman.<br />
The bad I&#8217;ve seen from the community is the snobby and judgemental attitudes I&#8217;ve seen arise.  Guys telling guys not to date anyone but 8&#8217;s through 10&#8217;s.  Guys telling guys not to befriend fat girls because they lower your value.  Guys giving guys tips on stealing or sleeping women in committed relationships. And guys referring to the majority of guys outside of the community as AFC! This in no way is helping men become better.  It&#8217;s only putting a black eye on the community.  We don&#8217;t need this.  We need men to step up and be men, not boys pretending to be men.  As much as I defend the community I also wont turn a blind eye to some of the darkness within.  Good post though.</p>
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		<title>By: evolveguide</title>
		<link>http://tynan.net/understanding-pickup/comment-page-1#comment-89522</link>
		<dc:creator>evolveguide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Aug 2007 04:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very very beatifull post tynan. It&#039;s one of the best i&#039;ve seeon the mainstream vs. pickup issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very very beatifull post tynan. It&#8217;s one of the best i&#8217;ve seeon the mainstream vs. pickup issue.</p>
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