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I first heard about Vipassana from Rivers Cuomo, the lead singer for Weezer. He was explaining that despite being a rock star, he was celibate because of Vipassana. Powerful stuff, I guess. He raved about the benefits of it, although I don’t remember exactly what he said anymore. It stuck in my mind, and over the years I thought about signing up, but something always seemed to be in the way of me leaving society for ten days to learn how to meditate.

The idea is simple and extreme, both of which appealed to me. You go to a meditation center in the middle of nowhere, agree to be silent and without any contact with the other world for ten days. Then, on a donation only basis, they teach you how to meditate, which you do for ten hours each day.

Finally, after knowing about it for five years, I signed up and went to a course. No notepads were allowed in, so this is reconstructed pretty faithfully from memory.

DAY 0

4:30 PM I’m pulling up a dusty dirt road to the Vipassana center of California in North Fork. I signed up mainly because they allow no talking / technology / contact with the outside world for ten days. I also like that they wake up at 4am every day. Not sure what I want to get out of meditation, but it seems like a universally good thing to do.

4:45 PM I’m filling out a questionnaire. All of the questions are normal except for a giant space on the back for a “short biography”. This is a small warning sign for me. Why do they need to know? I write about being a gambler and pickup artist, and then include that I’m close with my family to counterbalance the weirdness. Ninety percent of the space is left blank.

4:55 PM I’m once again asked to confirm that I will indeed stay for ten days. I start getting the impression that this might not be as easy as I thought it would be. I worry about my $5 bet with Annie. She thinks it will be harder than expected.

5:01 PM Off to a bad start. I’m assigned to bunk 12, which doesn’t exist. One of my dorm mates breaks the code of silence and asks what I’m looking for. Dammit. I don’t want to break the code of silence, but don’t want to be rude. I mumble “Bunk 12”, trying to break the code by as little as possible. He can’t find it either, since it doesn’t exist. I round down and put my stuff on bunk “11B”.

5:04 PM Hmm. There’s nothing to do here. Dinner is at six, so I emulate my dorm mates and lie awake in bed staring at the ceiling.

6:02 PM Dinner is surprisingly good. Salad with lots of good things like seeds and nutritional yeast, brown rice, and fruit.

6:31 PM Still nothing to do. I get back in bed to wait for orientation.

6:55 PM Just broke a rule by accident. A mosquito was biting me and I killed it.

7:01 PM Wow. The meditation room is really nice. Big and clean with pleasant dim lighting. Older students use pillows and weird little benches, but us new students just sit on the little pads.

7:05 PM Uh oh. We’re chanting in Buddha’s language, which is called Pali. Chanting freaks me out. We’re chanting affirmations that we will stay for ten days and not kill things or masturbate (technically it’s to be TOTALLY celibate, but we’re segregated by sex, so I read between the lines).

8:00 PM Now we’re meditating. Exciting! We’re told to become aware of the breath in our nostrils. The taped instructor says nostrils frequently and pronounces it funny. Nose-trills.

8:01 PM It’s really hard to focus on my nose-trills.

8:02 PM My forehead is itchy. Oops, I should be thinking about nose-trills.

8:09 PM How is my back sore already? I wonder if I should have better posture in general. I slouch a lot. It was awesome back when I had an Aeron chair. I should get another one. Maybe I could remove the top part of my chair in the RV and replace it with an Aeron. That would be awesome. Oh right… nose-trills.

9:00 PM Finally we get to sleep. In the last hour I spent about five minutes thinking about my nostrils and fifty five thinking about other things.

DAY 1

4:02 AM Hey, waking up at four a.m. isn’t bad at all. I didn’t hear my watch go off, but the shaved head manager guy keeps ringing that gong.

4:30 AM Morning meditation. No instructions. No instructors, actually. I wonder if they’re sleeping? I guess we’re supposed to keep doing what we did last night.

6:02 AM Breakfast time. Breakfast is really good, too. Oatmeal, raisins, prunes, other fruits.

6:21 AM I’m quickly learning that any free time is nap time.

8:00 AM Back for more meditation. Now they’re playing the guy chanting on the speakers. Why does chanting annoy me so much? How am I supposed to focus on my breathing with this chanting?

8:05 AM Eyes cracked open. No one else seems to be bothered by the chanting. Now he’s stopped chanting and told us again to be aware of the “respiration in your nose-trills”. He tells us that we may breath through the left, the right, or sometimes even both nose-trills. The way he says it is very reassuring. If we are uncomfortable we can lie down and rest for five minutes, but no more.

9:01 AM Time to meditate in our dorms now. Stopping and starting makes it seem easier, but I can’t stay focused. I’ve noticed that when my mind wanders, ninety percent of it is about two topics in about equal parts: girls and my new RV refrigerator. I don’t actually think about either topic very much in real life.

9:04 AM Man, once I get that fridge I can start cooking again. TEMPEH! I should start cooking tempeh. What a great protein source. I need to look into coconut oil when I get back. Man, that will be delicious.

9:06 AM Respiration. How many breaths can I focus for? One. Two. Three. I think my new fridge is smaller than the other one. I wonder what I should do with the extra space. Maybe I could make a spice rack! Or maybe I could fit a water heater back there if it’s shallower. What a smart design. I can’t believe it works on an angle. Why am I thinking about my fridge again? Back to breathing…

9:11 AM I should take one of those five minute rests. My back is sore and my two roommates are both taking rests. I think they might have fallen asleep.

9:55 AM Oops. I fell asleep too. Roommates still asleep. Okay, back to respiration.

10:10 AM I just can’t stay focused on respiration. I wonder if this is hard for other people. My roommates are still sleeping. I’ll take another five minute rest to refocus.

11:00 AM Time for lunch. I’m not sure how much of the last hour I slept sleeping and how much I spent meditating. Does this even count as meditating? When I’m awake, I mean. Sleeping seems so fun in comparison.

11:21 AM Lunch is good again. I like eating in silence. I shouldn’t have bet Annie $5 that this would be easy. Or at the very least, I shouldn’t have insisted that we bet Americabucks. At this point there’s no way I can reasonably claim that it was easy.

5:00 PM I’ve skipped the whole day because it was basically me struggling to meditate. My back is really sore now—sitting up properly is the hardest part. I can tell other people are having an easier time sitting because no one else has adopted my knees up / elbows on knees / head sideways on forearm posture. Oh yeah, I forgot that they don’t serve dinner. Just fruit and tea, which is pretty good. I’ll eat two oranges.

6:15 PM This meditation is killing me. I’ve got to get out of here. Why did I want to sign up for this again? Did I have a reason besides wanting to not talk for ten days? Owen was telling me that I don’t need to meditate because I’m already relaxed. Maybe he was right.

7:20 PM Wow, a video discourse. It’s filmed in 1991, but the quality is good. The chanting is less annoying now that I see the guy doing it. He’s pretty charismatic.

7:45 PM Now he’s talking about how hard day one is. He says everyone wants to quit on day two and day six, and calls quitters weak minded. He also says “ten days” so much that it feels like brainwashing. Mostly he talks about how our backs probably hurt and chuckles about it. That makes me feel better about the whole thing.

8:15 PM No new instructions, unfortunately. I was really hoping we’d get to do something other than think about respiration. At least we only have forty five minutes of meditation tonight. It’s funny how that seems like a really short time now.

9:00 PM Time to sleep. I did a bit better on that last meditation.

DAY TWO

4:00 AM Bam. I’m awake. Don’t even worry about it.

4:30 AM In the meditation hall, feeling pretty good about everything.

5:10 AM Wow. I made it forty minutes without changing positions! One of the reasons I came to this thing was because I wanted to do daily 15-20 minute meditations but couldn’t sit still long enough. No problem now.

5:34 AM Damn. How did only twenty four minutes just pass? That felt like forever. I can’t wait for breakfast. Maybe I should make oatmeal in my RV when I leave here. It’s such a good breakfast food. How can I do that without making a huge mess? Why do I keep thinking about my RV?

10:00 AM I’m seriously getting sick of thinking about respiration. When will we do something new?

1:45 PM I’m barely hanging in here. This is so tedious. I keep shifting positions every couple minutes. I’m now using an extra cushion and a wooden bench thing. Not sure if they help or not. Is it really this hard to sit comfortably? I didn’t think so…

7:00 PM The whole day passed in a blur of struggling to meditate and naps. Finally the discourse. I’ve been looking forward to the charismatic Indian man all day. Maybe he’ll give us new instructions. They play recordings of him before a lot of the meditations, and I’m always hoping for new instructions.

7:09 PM “Your mind is full of misery.” What? No it’s not! My mind is full of happiness. Why would he make such a blanket statement like that?

7:11 PM This discourse is getting worse. He keeps talking about how enlightened he is and how much misery we have. He categorizes our distracting thoughts into four categories, bad and good, future and past. Mine are all good-past and good-future. I like those thoughts and think they motivate me. I don’t want to get rid of them.

7:14 PM He outlines the “wholesome life” we can lead once we master the technique in ten days and then practice for some time on our own. It involves doing work that benefits others, eating vegetarian, not using intoxicants, and not being angry. I ALREADY DO ALL THAT. Why am I subjecting myself to this? I want to quit.

7:45 PM New instructions! Now instead of just focusing on the respiration, we should also focus on the sensations in the nose-trills. He lists many sensations we might feel. This sounds fun.

8:20 PM New problem. Now it’s too easy. I can focus indefinitely on these sensations without getting distracted. Now it’s more boring because the only challenge is remaining comfortable.

9:00 PM Time to sleep. I want to leave. I’ll wait until tomorrow to make sure I think it through. I wish I didn’t sign something saying I’d stay for ten days.

DAY 3

4:00 AM I’m getting used to this early waking thing. Not bad at all.

4:30 AM Ready to rock. I still want to leave, but I’ll give it one more chance.

4:40 AM Already bored of focusing on the sensations. How can I do this for ten hours today? Why is no one here? At least half of the students didn’t show up this morning.

4:50 AM Okay, I’m done with nose-trill sensations. I’m going to start doing mental math to kill the time. What’s 199 * 18? 3582. Let’s calculate it again to make sure.

4:52 AM Am I seriously doing mental math to amuse myself?

4:55 AM Okay, either I’m going to push through for ten days or leave now. No point in doing anything else. What are the pros for staying? I’ll have a cool blog article to write. Maybe I will actually learn something useful. What? I have no idea. Free food. I don’t like quitting things.

What about leaving? Well, I can get back to real life, don’t have to subject myself to this, and can continue meditating for a few minutes every day if I want. I don’t think I really want the promised outcome of the course, though.

5:30 AM I’ve thought about it for half an hour. I’m leaving. Interestingly, wake up times, technology, or communication had nothing to do with the decision. I opened my eyes and noticed that a ton of people have left the hall. That hasn’t happened until today.

5:50 AM My bag is packed and I’m walking towards the RV. I looked for a manager to tell them I was leaving, but didn’t see anyone. I don’t want to cause a scene or demoralize others, so I guess I’ll just slip out.

4:39 PM, Samovar Tea Lounge, San Francisco

So that’s that. I came back and got a perfect parking spot right next to Alamo Square park. I’m at my favorite place in SF (so far), Samovar tea lounge, being productive.

Vipassana wasn’t for me, but don’t take my aborted attempt as an indication of what the course is about or what it will do for you. The staff of the meditation center are all volunteers who clearly have benefitted from it and are genuinely interested in helping others.

I learn poorly in classroom environments, and get restless easily. It’s hard to articulate this without sounding arrogant, but I think I’m probably too close to the end goal of the class to be properly invested. A starving guy will do anything for a sandwich. A guy who has three fourths of a sandwich won’t do much for the sandwich.

This is also an incomplete view of the class. Maybe day three brings huge breakthroughs to those who stick through. Maybe I would have eliminated my positive self talk, gotten a quieter mind, and wished I had done it years before. I’m definitely interested in hearing from past Vipassana students.

My one tinge of hesitation in saying I’m glad I bailed is that I think that something is gained whenever you do something difficult. But ultimately, there are a lot of hard things to do, and the increased character alone isn’t enough justification.

And last, here’s what I got out of the class that I’m thankful for:

  • I learned that late night computer usage makes waking up early difficult. I may make a no-computer-after-11pm rule.
  • Waking up early is easy when you don’t have a computer.
  • I can now meditate for twenty minutes in a sitting. I might do this once a day for a month and see how I like it.

I also have a lot of respect for anyone who goes through with the whole course. Even if I had been overly motivated (win $1 million for sticking with it!), it still would have been a very difficult process.


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Aug 24th, 2009 @ 7:34 am

Too bad you didn’t make it. Do you think you’ll try it again some day?

I was reading the piece where you thought about leaving for half an hour and thought to _my_ self: that’s not the thing you should do. Just refuse to think about it.

Not that I’m really disciplined or anything..

Aug 24th, 2009 @ 8:05 am

Nice story! I like taking time to meditate sometimes, but I wouldn’t do such thing…
Like you, I’m already a very happy and positive person.

Aug 24th, 2009 @ 8:49 am

Hey Tynan,

Interesting article…my very westernized and biased view on mediation is that it’s largely a waste of time. Relaxing and taking mental breaks has quite a bit of value in productivity, but enlightenment, higher consciousness, awareness, etc…is mostly hippy BS and isn’t born out in any studies than have been done on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation#Health_applications_and_clinical_studies

I don’t blame you for walking out. Reading it reminded me a bit of when I tried the Landmark Forum. Gave it my best effort for 3 days, but ultimately didn’t get much out of it and left convinced it was a cult luring people into a false sense of getting something out it that they couldn’t articulate. I also felt like I was “ahead” of most of the people there, and asked for a full refund at the end of it (which they gave me, to their credit). Walking away from people who make huge unfounded promises of benefits and then don’t deliver is not weak minded, it’s remaining objective and rational.

I’d be suspicious of anyone who says “you have to FULLY commit and give yourself to this up front before you can get the benefit of it” because it’s an excuse they use later to keep the believers hooked…”they weren’t strong enough, but YOU are”. Has been a tool of religion for ages.

Anyway, thanks for writing it up…always interesting to see your experiments!
Brian


Erica
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 8:53 am

Nice post :)

I think that the biggest problem, IMHO, is that you don’t regularly practice meditation. These retreats aren’t something that anyone can just up and attend and expect to get something out of it. That’s like someone who doesn’t exercise trying to compete in a 5k. If you talk to someone who already meditates regularly and went to a retreat, you’d probably get different feedback.

Aug 24th, 2009 @ 9:37 am

The will is insatiable. This is what keeps us motivated, ambitious, alive…but it can also lead to despair. Meditation is about controlling the appetite of the will instead of feeding it. You discuss the problem of intrusive thoughts about your rv fridge and women while trying to meditate, but once you have the fridge installed, you want something else, like a spice rack to fill the empty space. You feed your will well, which is part of the reason your life is interesting, but you can’t control it. Don’t despair, most of us can’t.

Aug 24th, 2009 @ 9:41 am

I’m surprised that you know about tempeh, the Indonesian soy-bean thinghy! I’m impressed! :P


Jake
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 10:07 am

Hi Tynan,

I did the 10-day Vipassana course about two years ago. I haven’t meditated since, but I did feel it was worth doing.

One of the benefits for me was learning to disregard distractions. The real meditation actually starts on the 7th day.. Every Vipassana retreat (even the three day ones) have the same structure.. 1/3 breathing, 1/3 sensations, and then 1/3 “scanning” where you learn to focus on sensations in a particular area of your body.

I agree with you that the meditation seems to be of most benefit to people who are at a very low level of enlightenment. They show a film at the end of how successful Vipassana was in one of India’s most notorious prisons.

I think doing calculations in your head is sort of against the spirit of the meditation :P It was a real struggle to just keep focused on one thing at first. The mind does have a tendency to wander. By the end I could go for 40 minutes to an hour without losing state.

The videos and learnings that were shown every day were filled with internal contradictions so I just disregarded them.

On the bright side, the retreat didn’t cost me a thing other than my time.


Ron M
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 10:50 am

Tynan,

I’ve been meditating on and off for years. What you experienced for most of your time, (and what we all experience in general) is the default ‘mind chatter’ going on in our heads 24/7. When you are able to quiet the chatter through proper meditation, then other doors open. It takes a while to do but eventually you get to see the ‘aha’ moment and then you’re sold.

I loved your story. I totally relate.


bob
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 12:12 pm

I went on the retreat about a year ago, and it was amazing. I had never really meditated before, and wanted to learn how. The first few days really sucked, but it got a lot better in the end. What you went through sounds typical of the first few days, but then you learn the Vipassana technique, which is pretty powerful.

I’ve been doing it pretty much every day since the retreat, and have benefited a lot from the practice. It isn’t for everyone, though.


sky
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 4:39 pm

What do the instructors claim the benefits of the retreat are?


Josh
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 5:18 pm

That’s pretty disappointing, and I wish you’d have stayed on for the full 10 days. It really is a profound experience.

But from your post it sounds like you completely missed the point of the meditation – that is, not craving/ averting the sensations you felt. Plus you say your mind is completely happy – if it was, why was your mind so agitated during the vipassana experience? You could have just smiled at the pain and kept going, surely?

@ Erica:
I actually never meditated before I went on the retreat; I think it’s more of an attitude that you have when you go on the retreat. I think Tynan went in with the attitude that he was happy with life and there was nothing this technique could possibly do to improve upon that. IMO that’s the kind of intellectual excuses the ego constantly spits out so we do its bidding.

@ Brian:
Vipassana isn’t a cult… it’s a judgement you’ve made that’s completely unfounded. It does not encourage you rely on any guru other than yourself, and there are no doctrines to follow. In that respect, religions are more cults than anything else. I’ve come out of the retreat a much more content person, and other than the meditation technique and its benefits, I’ve not taken anything else out of the retreat. That is, I’m certainly not worshipping some Vipassana god-figure (i.e. Goenka) or regularly doing some Vipassana ritual.

You have every reason to be suspicious of giving up 10 days of your life. But if you think about it, that’s the same logic when you think: I’m suspicious of having to give up all these delicious foods for months ahead in order to get a better physique. In the same way, getting a better body also requires an upfront payment of your commitment, giving up of junk food and the taking up of exercise – and you probably won’t see any tangible results until a month or so in. And furthermore, when you try to achieve a better body you don’t just give it your best go for a week then give up because nothing happened. You have to actually commit for something like 3 months to reap the benefits.

Just like you can’t exercise for a week and then give up and exclaim dumbbells don’t work, you can’t just semi-try vipassana for a few days and then expect any results.

And let’s face it, compared with the commitment of months of exercise & eating well, 10 days isn’t that bad!

Aug 24th, 2009 @ 5:37 pm

Funny read!

This reminds me of the time I got acupuncture just to see what it was like. Turns out not that great when you don’t need it.

An acupuncturist friend said, “Going to acupuncture without some objective in mind is like going to the doctors office for fun.”

It seems like you didn’t have any weird inner demons or unhappiness to resolve, so treatment was probably unnecessary.

Keeping the mind active seems a lot more fun!


Matthew
Aug 24th, 2009 @ 7:55 pm

I hope that you didn’t get totally turned off to meditation by the experience. Retreats like that are nearly impossible for a novice. Better to start with something like 20 minutes a day then slowly work up to an hour or two. Once you get up to the point of being able to do that comfortably then its a good idea to do a retreat.

Aug 25th, 2009 @ 7:59 am

@ Brian
Dude, you seem to be dismissing meditation as hippy BS because of unproven spiritual benefits while ignoring the proven psychological and physiological benefits. Some of which are mentioned in the wiki link you provided.
Meditation makes you calmer and happier. Its a fact.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200304/the-benefits-meditation

You don’t need to be a genius to derive the practical benefits of meditation while avoiding any cultish or religious aspects.

@ Tynan. Well done. You’ve done three days more at a retreat than I have. I would suggest that you start with 5 minutes of meditation and work your way up from there as you find your ability to concentrate improving. 5 minutes of concentrated effort is far more beneficial than 20 minutes of wasted time. Good luck!


Peetuhr
Aug 25th, 2009 @ 9:40 am

at first i was disapointed that you werent finishing the retreat but as i read through it i can definately understand, if you come out of it wanting to meditate a bit more and are content with the results then congradulations! i would have walked out as soon as i was told my mind was full of despair. why fix what isnt broken. and i personally think the best means of meditation is on your own terms.


Brian
Aug 25th, 2009 @ 3:50 pm

I did a 10 day Vipassana in NH about 18 months ago. My practice since then has been less than up to par, but I definitely experienced a lot of positive change from the course. The most salient benefits:
-More control over pain in the body. I’m not as quick to bail out on runs because anything telling me to stop is just a negative perception of the feelings in my body. It’s a conscious decision to label pain as “bad,” and a decision I need not make.
-Looking at things in context and being satisfied with and dealing with things I have no control of.
-Less time wasted online/TV/reading news etc.
-Able to step back and really perceive emotions.

I’d love to answer any questions people have regarding the practice/retreat. Took me a while to give it a shot.
bradvansky at gmail dot com

Take care all,
Brian


Carlos
Aug 26th, 2009 @ 2:28 am

Vipassana isn’t for the weak of will. I’d recommend doing a 10 day program for anyone, if for nothing else, to develop the capacity of exercising your will to achieving a goal.


OBY
Aug 26th, 2009 @ 6:45 am

I am glad you didn’t go the full length of time. Gah, Seems like a waste of time.


Jackie
Aug 26th, 2009 @ 8:55 am

Very nice read.

I’ve been meditating on and off for awhile. I’ve been to this exact center in North Fork, CA for a 10 day course. I then went on to do additional 10 day retreats in Washington State.

Even as an experienced student, meditation does not get any easier. In fact, it becomes more and more difficult as your own mind works to throw everything at you to get you to stop meditating.

Vipassana is an ancient Buddhist meditation practice. It is known as a practice of purification. Purification of the Mind. This is the absolution and removal of lower taints in the mind…ignorance, hatred, greed. It has been studied, practiced, honed, and refined for thousands of years by many different practitioners. In regards to technology of mind, its fairly advanced. There isn’t anything like it that comes close to it in Western sciences & psychologies.

The benefits of meditation are many and come after some regular practice. Ultimately, these are Wisdom and Compassion. Wisdom is developed by clearly seeing (Vipassana means ‘bare attention’…seeing reality with little to no filters).

People experiences at these retreats can be vast and many. Many individuals experience much bodily pain and mental anguish. Others can go to these retreats and have many blissful moments. Any and all experiences (formations of body and mind) are of secondary importance. It is the detached awareness of these experiences that is of primary concern.

The vipassana as taught by S.N.Goenka (the chanting dude) focuses on scanning the body and developing an awareness of its physical sensations. There’s a mirror between mind and body. Awareness of the body = awareness of the mind. Increase awareness leads to the dissolution of ignorance. Ignorance is a nasty trap since by its own nature it is a blind spot in understanding. Only by subsequent understanding one can look back and say, “Oh yeah, I was pretty ignorant about that.” It is much the same with Happiness. Many people think they are happy, but once you really start to focus on their daily experiences with laser like focus, there are many momements of dissatisfactions that composite their life. A typical Western coping mechanism for dealing with these dissatisfactions is pre-occupation. Keeping oneself busy with projects, goals, and achievements. This can go on for a lifetime with eventually very little return on the investment. Through vipassana one can see that they’ve been running from something and going nowhere. Like the hamster running within its hamster wheel, so the same with the busy people in life. There’s a fear an inherent fear in the stopping of this running (slowing life down). Ultimately, it’s a death fear. If I stop running, or don’t keep myself busy with something, I will evaporate, die, disappear. Gotta keep busy and moving forward. This is a trap rooted in ignorance, in not knowing, in not clearly seeing.


Darren
Aug 26th, 2009 @ 8:08 pm

Hey Tynan,

Its a shame you didn’t get much value out of the experience. I had a really difficult time getting through the first seven days but I just resigned myself to the idea that my mind was resisting being quiet – it was working really hard to distract me. Strangely, day eight and nine were totally blissful… Totally amazing… Totally worth all the frustration and dissappointment of the first few days. Then again, it’s different strokes for different folks huh? Keep trying stuff. I really dig your blog.

Aug 28th, 2009 @ 12:54 am

Cool article i would love to try this out although i couldn’t imagine being celibate ;)


Yogi
Sep 1st, 2009 @ 3:38 pm

Meditation is for sissies, but it’s cool you tried.
You really need to finish what you start, though. Haven’t you written about your failings to follow through? Well, this was only 10 days of naps and relaxation. If you can’t complete this simple task, then how strong a person are you?


rephore
Sep 3rd, 2009 @ 2:48 am

I meditated over 60 days straight.

First 30 days for 30 minutes. Then second month, I extended my meditation session to one hour.

I hardly noticed any improvement in my life except that I was able to achieve my physical goals (gaining weight). Quite unrelated to meditating.


Eric
Sep 10th, 2009 @ 9:24 pm

I just returned from an unsuccessful Vipassana here in Washington. I lasted til the end of day one. I kinda feel like my girlfriend pressured me into going, saying that I needed to be more spiritual or something. I sat through the meditations on nostrils and gawked at the skinny uber feminized hippies. They were nice, but I was bored stiff, literally. I guess I was there for the wrong reasons, i’ve personally never believed in meditation or any other new age, crystal, pyramid on your head junk, but it seemed to make some people happy, it just wasn’t for me.


christine
Oct 13th, 2009 @ 6:43 pm

you know what tynan, some people just ain’t conformist. just like there are some who can’t be hypnotised and the derren brown’s of the world will choose NOT to use them in their shows and are very open about that. weirdly, hitler said the same – that some people simply wouldn’t be swayed (troublesome types as he saw them).

f*ck any thing that sits there and tells you that you are unhappy and full of misery. cr*p. scuse my english. and i loathe that attitude “if you are strong you will stay but if you leave you are weak” classic manipulative bullshit. if someone said that to me, the first thing i would do is walk out.

so yay for you! vipassana my arse!


anton
Oct 26th, 2009 @ 7:12 pm

well…i completed the 10 day course about a year ago….my practise since has been pretty terrible, but I know that meditation has huge benefits for me. saying this, the morning chants on the course are FUCKING IRRITATING…and didn’t get any less so after 10 days!!!


Tim
Dec 16th, 2009 @ 12:56 pm

What a great way to make money! Provide basic food, shelter, and seating arrangements for 10 days, and play mostly recordings.
OR…stay home and do it yourself, if that’s your thing. I’m always suspicious of another mere human telling me that they can show me the path to enlightenment…especially for money! Plus, no masturbation? How’d that work out for the Catholic priests, eh?


Makri
Dec 18th, 2009 @ 1:07 am

It was really interesting reading all the above comments. I am planning to go for a 10 day retreat this month. I have heard about this quite a bit and a friend has done it. There is this great eagerness to attend but at the same time a little freaked out. Sitting for 10 hours!! man! thats long. But then what else are you supposed to do.
If any of you get a chance read J. Krishnamurti. I can’t tell much about him except he lived from 1895-1986. Google him, there are some video shots as well.

I am going to attend this course. And will try my best to complete it. After all, what am I so afraid off! They can preach what they want, we have a clear mind with logical and fair thinking nothing can influence you. We are what we are made up of our past experiences through sounds, visual images and accumulation of sensory experiences over the years.

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Nick Stebbings
Jun 14th, 2010 @ 11:33 am

No wonder you didn’t reap the benefits of Vipassana, the first 3.5 days are just concentration exercises to prepare you for the actual meditation.

One of the main benefits of the actual meditation is that you learn to just observe things that are happening rather than react to them – become equinamous.

You say you are relaxed and happy, which is great, but your life sounds pretty good at the moment. The true test of how much meditation can help you is the extent to which you react to the negative things in your life. If you lose a lot of money do you dwell on the fact or do you accept it and move on quickly? It is easy to be equinomous when things are going well.

I hope you try it again sometime, as there are a lot of benefits to be had from completing the course.

For the people that say this is brainwashing or a cult: the people who operate it are a charity, they don’t charge and you can easily go there and stay for free. They are run off donations from people who have done the course and derived benefit.
I was concerned about the vulnerability of the position I was in at times (not preparing my own meals etc.) but there was never any hint of conversion or trying to get money out of me. They just want people to give the technique a fair trial. I did donate in the end because I found it enormously beneficial and wanted to pay for someone else to have the same experience.


IM
Jul 21st, 2010 @ 6:28 am

I did the course last month (all 10 days) and you’re right on — computers are distracting. If you stayed on till the end you’d have learned more truths. FWIW the course provides an extremely suitable atmosphere for meditation. A creative and analytical mind is greatly beneficial for meditation.. so really, you are ideal person for meditation. Meditation teaches techniques to focus one’s abilities (creative or otherwise) very much required for abilities to actually be of any use by not being scattered. Meditation per se can’t be taught.. you either think on the problems at hand or don’t. But Vipassana etc teach the techniques to get the most out of your time spent thinking (the 10 day course is just an introductory chapter). I discovered vipassana techniques independently about 10 yrs back and it mostly correlates (I used heartbeat instead of breath, and “graduated” to sensing my thoughts as they arose).

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